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Post by nemesis on Mar 13, 2020 16:18:25 GMT
It is important to note that during the time when HE voluntarily ceased collecting Management Fees from HMIC, maturating mortgages were being reinvested.
Originating fees generated from these reinvested maturing mortgages that were paid to the Manager were paid directly by the borrower and represented no cost to Investors.
Without these originating fees the Manager would not have been able to staff appropriately to manage the current mortgages and HRAC properties and maximize recovery values as set out in the HRAC sales activity report.
So basically management is saying "hey, it didn't cost you a thing to make us personally wealthy through originating fees". That is why we would like to keep churning this company. There's more to be had.
I would like to see exactly how much has been paid to management in originating (and other fees) and of that amount, show me a spreadsheet that gives us line by line detail of operating expenses: Office expenses, salaries and benefits, travel, support staff.
Management continues to perpetuate the fiction that a few disgruntled investors are just standing in the way of HE making changes that will give us all the best chance of recouping our dollars. I say, pay out the disgruntled group of investors now. How many could there be? Then all the other investors will be happy to fall in with your future plans for a development company and you can also attract new investors to this wonderfully performing fund. Maybe we need an open vote. Who votes to exit and who votes to stay. Then we will know where we truly are.
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Post by Moderator on Mar 13, 2020 19:36:06 GMT
Remember what HE told us in January? “We would like to take this improved Plan forward but will not use resources to do so unless there is Investor interest. Please send us an email indication of your support or opposition so that we can informally assess the wish of the majority of the Investors.”
According to this, if HE would have gained the support, we would have received a new Information Circular and asked for proxies. Instead we are told that "In the absence of an analysis supporting the TWO MIC Plan the “status quo” will remain meaning the current OM will remain in effect."
Let me recap: because of the failure of small group of Investors opposing the improved Plan to provide analysis for their own proposal ("Two MIC Plan") that was never sent to All Investors, a $215 M company is incapable to proceed with their reorganization Plan that is the best option for All Investors. This is totally surreal and I cannot believe HE is expecting any Investor to buy this.
It's an insult to our intelligence and common sense!
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Post by forexloonie on Mar 14, 2020 0:45:49 GMT
I am totally confused. The redemptions are suspended indefinitely because the supporters of Two MIC Plan did not do some kind of analysis?
Are Investors supposed to do work for HMIC? Do I have homework I am not aware of?
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brad1
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Post by brad1 on Mar 14, 2020 0:56:43 GMT
I received today the update from HE and this is my understanding:
1. HE did not get enough Investor support for their improved Plan
2. This happened because of me, the Investor, who did not provide them with an analysis of Two MIC Plan (they never asked me)
3. They don't have any plan where to go from here and we remain in standoff - indefinitely
To me, this proves, one more time, the incompetence of HE management.
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Post by disgustedbeyond on Mar 14, 2020 1:46:55 GMT
It’s called arrogance .😡😡
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Post by maryanne on Mar 14, 2020 20:23:20 GMT
Wow, back to square one where HE has to explain us again why are redemptions suspended.
Oh, keep forgetting, Robert Mitchell did not do some kind of analysis.
Is he the CEO? No, Larry Dunn is the Chairman & CEO. Robert is just an Investor.
Are we in Twilight zone?
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Post by thebigshort on Mar 14, 2020 21:34:45 GMT
OMG They Totally Lost It!
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chris
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Post by chris on Mar 16, 2020 18:37:41 GMT
The last HE email doesn't say what happens next. We are back in 2018 prior to the reorganization plan beeing proposed
Why are the redemptions suspended if the ELO is done and we are back to the old OM? When the suspension was announced we were told that the fund will open once the ELO is completed
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Post by Moderator on Mar 16, 2020 21:59:33 GMT
The last HE email doesn't say what happens next. We are back in 2018 prior to the reorganization plan beeing proposed Why are the redemptions suspended if the ELO is done and we are back to the old OM? When the suspension was announced we were told that the fund will open once the ELO is completed chris, you should send an email to Larry Dunn, the Chairman & CEO and ask him why are redemptions still suspended when there is liquidity in the fund. It is arbitrary on their side to refuse our request for redemption of the assets that we own in HMIC/HRAC when funds are available or predictably available: - HRAC Sales activity March 13, 2020 indicates that 52% of HRAC properties are sold or expected to be sold to a REIT; it is reasonable to expect that the most HRAC properties will be sold in near future as only $33 M representing 15.5% of our total investment are in construction/development
- On mortgages side, over $65 M funds will be available for redemptions from mortgage maturities over 2020-2022
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chris
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Post by chris on Mar 18, 2020 0:21:07 GMT
Please someone help, I'm staring at HE email and don't get it. They say status quo remains which means "e. NO Investor will be treated preferentially" which means: - for HRAC "no Investor will exit ahead of another. ALL 215 million outstanding shares will share in all asset sale proceeds so allocated on a prorate basis" - for maturing mortgages "no Investor will exit ahead of others. ALL 215 million outstanding shares will share from any mortgage maturity / payout proceeds so allocated on a prorata basis" This sounds like a wind-up to me
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